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Can I tell you how much I hate it when people write fic whose entire premise - put outside of a cut tag - is future-episode spoilery, especially when they're spoilers I've been working very hard to avoid? Grrr.

Anyway. That rant has nothing to do with Supernatural, but the rest of the post does!



Okay. The big question - Jo, yes or no? In the end, over here, the answer is 'yes'. Props to Alona Tal for being an excellent actress. That was well played - while part of me wishes the writing staff had come up with some other story for her than daddy issues, because hey, been there, done that, have several different t-shirts picked up over the last season or so, I like the way she held herself, with believable parts fright and bravado. She was a little stupid, but believably so for a rookie hunter, and she used her brain enough to avoid being a dumb blonde. So, all in all, I'm in for the Jo thing.

... this, however, is not a romantic relationship with Dean, and I'm hoping the writing staff is smart enough to stay away from that. What it is, really, is a parallel relationship to the one Dean has with Sam - sibling-ish, or, at least, Dean as mentor and protector. I saw that face form clearly with Dean the minute he noticed her dad's initials on the knife. I know Jo is supposed to be 21 (or thereabouts), but she plays as so much younger than Dean, inexperienced and naive. It's an interesting relationship, played as mentor/student. Here's another younger person, one Dean now feels an obligation to protect and help. Especially when his brain processes the idea that John was responsible for her father's death.

And there, we have a great parallel, too. Here's Dean, walking around with the weight of the world on his shoulders, feeling totally responsible for his father's death. Now, he gets to toss around the idea that John caused someone else's death. I think this is going to be the means by which Dean lets go of some of that guilt and anguish ... I think, if I'm guessing, we're going along the path of a hunter's responsibility - that anyone who chooses that life knows what they're getting into, puts themselves into the line of fire willingly, knowing exactly what might come. That the only person responsible for a hunter's injury or death is that hunter, in the end.

Anyway ... this season is turning out to be the Dean Show, isn't it? I can't complain. Jensen's knocking it out of the park at every turn. And I'm really enjoying the extra characters we're bringing in ... not only have they chosen well with the actors and the character types, but the extra people lets us have a little more subtlety in the Winchesters' relationship with each other. We can't get beaten over the head with brotherly angst in every episode ... so, having other people that we're actually invested in lets us have a breather, and also the opportunity to look at who they are with other people, which then in turn gives us a better idea of how different/same they are when interacting with each other.

I'm babbling. In short, with only a few minor quibbles, I have to give it up to the writing staff for this entire season so far. They're impressing the hell out of me!

Date: 2006-11-03 03:41 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] gwyntastic.livejournal.com
Okay I have a huge spoilerphobia so I know NOTHING. Maybe it’s the Dean show right now because next half will be the Sam show and they are over compensating.

I'm pretty damn happy with this season too. I thought it would be one huge shit pot.

Date: 2006-11-03 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seimaisin.livejournal.com
Yeah, I know nothing, either. I'm speculating in my own little world!

I suspect we'll be getting more Sam as the season goes on, but I do think that the overriding arc is turning out to be Dean dealing with his father's death. It's just such a switch from last season, which was all Sam, all the time!

Date: 2006-11-03 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donna-c-punk.livejournal.com
Anyway ... this season is turning out to be the Dean Show, isn't it? I can't complain.

Neither can I! But the lack of Sam rather disturbed me. It disturbs me that it disturbed me. I just flatout don't like Jo. Not because of the love interest thing flying around and what not, she's just annoying.

And I completely agree Dean's manner towards her is older brotherly/mentor.

Date: 2006-11-03 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seimaisin.livejournal.com
I'm attributing the extreme lack of Sam in this one to Jared Padalecki's wrist injury - I'd suspect they had to rework a lot of physical type scenes to not involve him. Since this was a pretty physical episode, he probably ended up on the sidelines even more than he would have.

Date: 2006-11-03 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donna-c-punk.livejournal.com
Ah. See, I don't know what's going on with the cast outside of the show.

I'm still vexed about how much the lack of him vexed me. Dammit, I must be really liking that emo boy now.

Date: 2006-11-03 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonsinger.livejournal.com
I don't have anything to add, but you can count me as a Jo fan. I really liked her in this episode and would like to see her continue to grow. Very well done.

Date: 2006-11-03 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seimaisin.livejournal.com
Yes - I can't wait to see what they do with her, and with Ellen, and with that whole dynamic. They're setting it up nicely!

Date: 2006-11-03 03:56 am (UTC)
medie: queen elsa's grand entrance (spn - jo - doesn't need anybody)
From: [personal profile] medie
I'm so not spoiled for tonight's ep at all but?

I like Jo. I could go there with a romance, I could leave it the way it is. Doesn't bother me either way. And the more fandom...well, is fandom? The more I like Jo and the more I'll try to get my brain to a shippy place because of sheer stubbornness *G*

Date: 2006-11-03 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seimaisin.livejournal.com
This is why I avoid fandom these days. TV is a much happier place when I only have to deal with my own opinions! :)

After this episode, I can't really go there with romance, at least not present-day. I could see a futurefic, maybe a decade or so down the line, where they're on more even ground. ... and I won't go into any more than that, if you're not spoiled yet. ;)

Date: 2006-11-03 07:45 pm (UTC)
medie: queen elsa's grand entrance (spn - bruised - sam)
From: [personal profile] medie
*nods* likewise, fandom right now is getting verrrry annoying on this front. Pretending it doesn't exist on the matter is good plan.

I can't see one present day either. She's got way too many issues she needs to sort through but I can see it going there.

*has now seen*

And I should say the "There's no chemistry with Dean" Argument always makes me snicker. It's Dean Winchester. The boy's a manwhore. If she's breathing? He's got chemistry *G*

But yes, I think Jo's got some growing up to do, Dean's got some growing up to do. I can see them getting involved now but not in a relationship sense and I'm not sure either one of them would want it to be.


Date: 2006-11-03 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] northatlantic.livejournal.com
Jo is so mini-Dean, Girl Edition, I still say we're gonna find out that she's really a distaff Winchester. I don't think we've come to the end of Ellen's secrets where that's concerned.

Date: 2006-11-03 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seimaisin.livejournal.com
She is so very much mini-Dean.

I don't know about biological relations any more, after this one ... maybe, but it would end up seeming more soap opera-ish than I particularly want to see. But, I do think there's more to the story than meets the eye.

Date: 2006-11-03 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danamulder.livejournal.com
Well, this was the episode that helped me decide I really don't like Jo that much. BUT, despite that, if they keep it platonic, I won't throw up if she comes around again. There is NO romantic spark there at all, and I've seen her as more of a little sister/friend figure since the beginning. Which is why I was totally willing to buy the notion she might be their sister. LOL

No romance with Dean is my only rule here. Otherwise, I'll try to put up with her even though I think they could've cast a better actress in this particular role. She doesn't fit to me, and her "spunky" just comes off as obnoxious.

I'm sure it's only me though. It usually is. ;)

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